Can't Zero X Sight ii

[casualhero44]

OK so... scope is mounted properly, all ballistic info is entered etc and for the life of me I can't get the dang thing zeroed. not one round hit paper out of 30. one shot zero my arse! I'm a total noob with this thing so PLEASE someone help me out.

[odin]

Is your ballistic calculator off - if not turn it off.
Set your range at 25m and shoot at 25m on base magnification. do your zeroing at this range. You can fine tune your zero at higher mag.
after you have zeroed at this you can set your range to distance shooting at and turn on ballistic calculator it will then give you a compensated aiming point (after other required data added)
hope this helps.
For the hunting that I do (stalk and snap shoot) I have just set my range at 100m after the zeroing and do a quick mental on aiming point depending on where the animal is in relation to a 100m distance. never have the time to input all the frilly stuff.

[tomvb]

Also, depending on the type of firearm, you may want to start by using a laser boresighter to get the reticle close. Let us know how your next attempt goes.

Tom

[casualhero44]

I did a noob move and was starting at 75 yards. I walked it in to 25 and got it zeroed and then out to 50 and everything was dead nuts. However the reticle is offset top right at base magnification and centered at zoom. Any way to correct this?
The manual is EXTREMELY VAGUE.

[tomvb]

What I've found is that if your X Y is extreme, your reticle will appear way off center at low magnification, and centered as you zoom in. Not sure of any way to correct that.

Tom

[casualhero44]

Thanks Tom, hopefully this will be addressed in the next firmware update.

[wheels]

Maybe a misalignment on the scope?

[wobblybootie]

I have been informed that misalignment was my problem ... 'Shimming is the answer'

I can understand shimming a tube scope by packing one of the rings, but how do you shim a picatinny mount?? I have bought some reasonable Dovetail to Picatinny / Weaver mounts (Sportsmatch) so I'll have another go at zeroing.

The scope was accurate from zero but recticle was offset just like the OP. Whilst that in itself is okay and I could hit what I aimed at, I mainly shoot at base mag or maybe a little over, my OCD was driving me mad!!!

So suggestions on shimming a Weaver type mount anyone???

[Garysalunatic]

I found that changing the video quality/resolution to the lower res (720?) vs 1080, the reticle will center. Also, the image on screen will be slightly larger.
3x plus a little, if you like.

[bufflovechest]

Just curious about the zeroing and having exact same issue casualhero44 and manual is extremely vague lol. I mounted on my Matrix 380 crossbow after 4 days i would have pulled hair out but because limited amount left at my age i cursed and swore. I thought i had it zeroed at 20yds and moved it to 40 and off by 1.5ft low. I am three weeks in to my hunting and projectile weapons experience so extreme Nube lol. I fairly capable of self educating and read about coefficients and drag functions and so on. But just for clarification I leave " smart Shooter" off and just set distance, fire a bolt and zero reticle. Then gradually increase distance value, pull trigger and zero again and so on and so on. And which reticle go to aiming location and which one goes to the actual impact location?


Thanks and anything to get me closer to splitting hairs is greatly appreciated.

[oldspook]

Mar 10, 2017 3:38:25 GMT -8 bufflovechest said:

Just curious about the zeroing and having exact same issue casualhero44 and manual is extremely vague lol. I mounted on my Matrix 380 crossbow after 4 days i would have pulled hair out but because limited amount left at my age i cursed and swore. I thought i had it zeroed at 20yds and moved it to 40 and off by 1.5ft low. I am three weeks in to my hunting and projectile weapons experience so extreme Nube lol. I fairly capable of self educating and read about coefficients and drag functions and so on. But just for clarification I leave " smart Shooter" off and just set distance, fire a bolt and zero reticle. Then gradually increase distance value, pull trigger and zero again and so on and so on. And which reticle go to aiming location and which one goes to the actual impact location?


Thanks and anything to get me closer to splitting hairs is greatly appreciated.

You are shooting a crossbow so ballistics coefficients are out the window as are drag functions.  You probably will not want to use the "smart shooter".

Go through the zero process mentioned here:

atnowners.com/thread/1268/zero-process-12-step-program

Once you have done that and zeroed at whatever intermediate range you decide to select as your base use reticle #7 and use hold off's for the other ranges.

www.oldspooks.com/agstuff/ATN/Reticles/R7/ATN-R7-10X.jpg

[bufflovechest]

So I haven't completely finished the setup and zeroing but found this and so far it looks like after zeroing with SSS off I have a calculator for ballistics info that SSS might just work for crossbow.
www.x-ballistics.eu/app/web/ballistics/index#!1

[oldspook]

Mar 12, 2017 0:32:21 GMT -8 bufflovechest said:

So I haven't completely finished the setup and zeroing but found this and so far it looks like after zeroing with SSS off I have a calculator for ballistics info that SSS might just work for crossbow.
www.x-ballistics.eu/app/web/ballistics/index#!1

If you really want to use the ballistics calculator in the X-Sight you can but you are screwed by the devs locking your input range to values higher than 25 meters. Use a BC of 0.07 for starters.  

sites.google.com/site/technicalarchery/

[bufflovechest]

Mar 12, 2017 8:52:34 GMT -8 oldspook said:

Mar 12, 2017 0:32:21 GMT -8 bufflovechest said:

So I haven't completely finished the setup and zeroing but found this and so far it looks like after zeroing with SSS off I have a calculator for ballistics info that SSS might just work for crossbow.
www.x-ballistics.eu/app/web/ballistics/index#!1

If you really want to use the ballistics calculator in the X-Sight you can but you are screwed by the devs locking your input range to values higher than 25 meters. Use a BC of 0.07 for starters.  

sites.google.com/site/technicalarchery/

    

This is a screen shot of my info for ballistics the drag function is "G1" and the "Ballistic Coefficient" is "0.96". Now I also know my exact fp/s as well because I have a chronographer.
I'll try and get some video up soon. But only reason why I went this far is because I was told it was for bullets only and wouldn't work for crossbows lol. But I'm fairly decent with formulas and numbers and I saw no reason why it wouldn't work if you had all the variables.

Anyways have a good one and happy hunting!!!!!! 

[davek]

Dec 1, 2016 17:51:41 GMT -8 odin said:

Is your ballistic calculator off - if not turn it off.
Set your range at 25m and shoot at 25m on base magnification. do your zeroing at this range. You can fine tune your zero at higher mag.
after you have zeroed at this you can set your range to distance shooting at and turn on ballistic calculator it will then give you a compensated aiming point (after other required data added)
hope this helps.
For the hunting that I do (stalk and snap shoot) I have just set my range at 100m after the zeroing and do a quick mental on aiming point depending on where the animal is in relation to a 100m distance. never have the time to input all the frilly stuff.

I have followed the steps for one shot zero and it does shoot fine at 25 yards, zeroed at base and high magnification and had ballistic calculator off.  The problem I am having is when I go back to 100 yards, I am shooting a good 2'' low and maybe an inch to the right, had my brother shoot it as well and he was shooting pretty close to where I am.  I turned the ballistic calculator on and have all inputs correct.  Why am I not hitting the bulls eye at 100 yards?   I am shooting an AR-15 in 6.5 Grendell, I was told once you had it zero'd at 25 yards you can go back to 100 yards, or further and the ballistic calculator will make the correct adjustments for that distance.