Difference between 1000 and 1500 Laser Range Finder?

[texasken]

All I could find is the maximum yardage. Is that it? The specs are identical so you have to pay ~$80 for a firmware change from 1000yds to 1500yds. After my experience with the 5-20 and 5-50 zoom image quality on the X-Sight II, I'm thinking the money for the extra 500yds is a waste. Who has real world experience with the 1500? The YouTube videos only show it working out to 200+ yards.

[oldspook]

Apr 24, 2017 11:15:07 GMT -8 texasken said:

All I could find is the maximum yardage. Is that it? The specs are identical so you have to pay ~$80 for a firmware change from 1000yds to 1500yds. After my experience with the 5-20 and 5-50 zoom image quality on the X-Sight II, I'm thinking the money for the extra 500yds is a waste. Who has real world experience with the 1500? The YouTube videos only show it working out to 200+ yards.

LASER range finders, especially low end ones like the ATN line won't range an animal at any where their stated maximum range.  If you want an accurate range at the far end or what the device is capable of doing you have to range larger objects which are near your target.  The 1500 will range farther than the 1000.  That said, do you think you are ever going to try to make a shot at that kind of range?

I have a 1500.  I have used it to range highly reflective objects out to about 1800 meters.  You would be lucky to get a reading on a deer at 1000 meters with the 1500.  The device is very accurate. 

[texasken]

Well, the 1000 is on order. I think it will fit my needs around here. Thanks for the response.

[texasken]

Update:

Amazon just notified me that it's been shipped. FINALLY! Dang, they seem to be getting worse in service. They just sent me a letter asking if I wanted to sign up for a Business Account. A week to ship and a week to arrive ain't gonna hack it. And I sure don't fancy paying extra (Prime) to get good service. I get better service off Ebay.

[usncws]

I purchased the Sig Sauer Kilo 2000 rangefinder and I can get 2,300 meters out of it. I am very happy with this range finder and would recommend it to anyone.

[texasken]

May 7, 2017 17:20:38 GMT -8 usncws said:

I purchased the Sig Sauer Kilo 2000 rangefinder and I can get 2,300 meters out of it. I am very happy with this range finder and would recommend it to anyone.

It doesn't have Bluetooth. How does it link to the XS HD?

My rifles won't shoot out to 2300 meters anyway.

[wheels]

Not with a xsight anyways

[texasken]

May 8, 2017 21:01:45 GMT -8 wheels said:

Not with a xsight anyways

Not with any sight. Nothing I own will reach out that far with accuracy. That's nearly 1.5 miles and would get you on the top 10 sniper list.

[oldspook]

May 10, 2017 6:19:19 GMT -8 texasken said:

May 8, 2017 21:01:45 GMT -8 wheels said:

Not with a xsight anyways

Not with any sight. Nothing I own will reach out that far with accuracy. That's nearly 1.5 miles and would get you on the top 10 sniper list.

To paraphrase one of the beta testers, "The X-Sight doesn't need to calculate Coriolis because it isn't really intended for long ranges.  It is basically a toy for shooters who want to shoot a little farther or shoot at close ranges in the dark.  When I want to shoot really long ranges I get out my March optics."  Of course that beta tester is hugely in the bag for ATN but he did speak the truth in that case, so we have to credit him for that.  It is basically a toy for people who want to shoot hogs at night with their black rifles.  Unfortunately for ATN, other people have decided to take them up on everything else they claim it does.  Fancy that?

[texasken]

The ATN still beats anything in the price range. Night Vision is a plus!

March, Oh sure! The image below is what you'll get with a $3,000+ "March optics". A big blurry patch of nothing. Hope your deer has a big number one painted on its side.   

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[texasken]

May 12, 2017 10:28:34 GMT -8 oldspook said:

Take the ATN products for what they are. Shooting hogs at night is exactly why I bought mine. Hogs don't like to be out in the open except at night. I didn't buy the scope to put on a .50 Cal sniper rifle or hunt where the deer and the antelope roam.  No one around here hunts anything beyond about 300yds. Mostly less! In the brushy areas, you'd be lucky to have a 100yd clear range. If you're hogging in the daytime and shagging the brush, you better have something other than a scope. The hogs will pop out of the brush and run right at you within about 25 yards or less. (More like 25 feet!) You don't have much time to get a sight picture much less set the distance.

Maybe in the flatlands or out west where you can see 1000yds but I'm sure not going to be using a 308 or my pop-gun .223 for hunting in that terrain. Your argument is silly and void of facts. Nowhere did I see where ATN claims the scope is for long distance shooting. Just because a device may show more than 300 yards doesn't mean a thing. Most were originally displaying feet and the field size just remained when they went to yards. I had a car that showed 210 on the speedometer. That didn't mean it would go that fast nor would I want to, in normal circumstances.

Your posts are constantly hammering ATN products based on hearsay and Google searches. I haven't seen you provide any knowledge learned from your experiences. You just look something up on Google and puke-out other peoples words or irrelevant links.  I'm beginning to wonder if you even have any of the products and just enjoy being a Forum Troll. If you hate the products that much and own them, sell them or throw them away. Save yourself the grief of ownership that you're constantly telling everyone you have.  No one forced you to buy the products and certainly no one will force you to use them for long distance shooting.

[oldspook]

May 12, 2017 11:22:25 GMT -8 texasken said:

The ATN still beats anything in the price range. Night Vision is a plus!

March, Oh sure! The image below is what you'll get with a $3,000+ "March optics". A big blurry patch of nothing. Hope your deer has a big number one painted on its side.   

Ayup... Cherry picking pictures off the March web site?  Nice web site by the way:
March Optics

Now show me what your X-Sight looks like on 40 power at 1100 yards.  For that matter show me your X-Sight resolving bullet holes at 50 yards when set to it's maximum standard zoom. Lets compare apples to apples, shall we?  You get what you pay for...

Now I personally would not take an 1100 yard shot at a deer because the possibility of crippling that deer is much more than the braggin' rights are worth.

YMMV

[oldspook]

May 12, 2017 12:52:03 GMT -8 texasken said:

May 12, 2017 10:28:34 GMT -8 oldspook said:

Take the ATN products for what they are. Shooting hogs at night is exactly why I bought mine. Hogs don't like to be out in the open except at night. I didn't buy the scope to put on a .50 Cal sniper rifle or hunt where the deer and the antelope roam.  No one around here hunts anything beyond about 300yds. Mostly less! In the brushy areas, you'd be lucky to have a 100yd clear range. If you're hogging in the daytime and shagging the brush, you better have something other than a scope. The hogs will pop out of the brush and run right at you within about 25 yards or less. (More like 25 feet!) You don't have much time to get a sight picture much less set the distance.

Maybe in the flatlands or out west where you can see 1000yds but I'm sure not going to be using a 308 or my pop-gun .223 for hunting in that terrain. Your argument is silly and void of facts. Nowhere did I see where ATN claims the scope is for long distance shooting. Just because a device may show more than 300 yards doesn't mean a thing. Most were originally displaying feet and the field size just remained when they went to yards. I had a car that showed 210 on the speedometer. That didn't mean it would go that fast nor would I want to, in normal circumstances.

Your posts are constantly hammering ATN products based on hearsay and Google searches. I haven't seen you provide any knowledge learned from your experiences. You just look something up on Google and puke-out other peoples words or irrelevant links.  I'm beginning to wonder if you even have any of the products and just enjoy being a Forum Troll. If you hate the products that much and own them, sell them or throw them away. Save yourself the grief of ownership that you're constantly telling everyone you have.  No one forced you to buy the products and certainly no one will force you to use them for long distance shooting.

You somehow managed to quote me and then remove the quoted text, I can only assume that is because the quoted text does exactly what you said I should do namely; "Take the ATN products for what they are."  It's a toy that you can use to shoot hogs in the dark with your AR platform and that is exactly what it was designed to be.  Sadly that is not exactly what it has been sold as by ATN.  Therein lies the rub.  From here: X-Sight 5 x 20 Intro Page at ATN "Make your shots at ranges previously impossible with a digital or a night scope." Now before you jump in there that is an OR between digital and night...

Nobody here has said that the X-Sight should be used for long range rifle work.  ATN has merely suggested that you can make shots at ranges previously impossible with a digital or a night scope.  Even that isn't true but it's ad copy so ok, let it slip.  You assert that the devices were originally intended to work in feet and the "field size" just remained when they went to yards.  You sound a lot like an ATN firmware developer, except that even they know the original firmware was developed in meters and the conversion to yards is an add on.  I don't know what you having a car that showed 210 on the speedometer means unless you had a car with a speedometer calibrated in KPH (kilometers per hour ) which maybe you did because 210 kph is 135 mph...  I am completely baffled as to how that might relate to ATNs firmware issues.

Now in your third paragraph above you are starting to sound angry.  You are making all sorts of assertions about what I have done or not done.  Clearly you are ignorant of my history on the forum and of the work I've done to try to ensure that folks had information which ATN apparently could not be arsed to provide upon request.  So I'm going to blow that attitude off as just rantings.  Let me suggest that you research the assertions you make BEFORE you make them, especially when they are aimed in my direction.  Frankly I'm tired of you going all "East Tex" on anyone who says anything you don't like about ATN.  Stick that in your gum and chew on it before replying there "Tex".