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Post by odin on Sept 23, 2018 20:19:56 GMT -8
Hi Guys
In 1904 NZ was gifted stock of Himilayan Thar which were released in our Southern Alps where they have become established. In their native ranges they are now listed as endangered by the UN. New Zealand is the only place outside their native range where they can be hunted.
Our Conservation minister has just announced a massive cull of these animals, with no science backing a need, or any consultation with hunting and animal management groups. They are planning to cull down to 0 density in most areas. We are desperatly trying to prevent this as many companies guiding businesses will be destroyed. The minister is a Green party member and also a member of an organisation called forest and Bird - a left wing greenie outfit. If you feel inclined please email our conservation minister and express your horror at her actions, but please no threats or abuse.
here email is e.sage@ministers.govt.nz
Many thanks in advance odin
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Post by odin on Sept 24, 2018 12:30:04 GMT -8
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Post by odin on Sept 25, 2018 20:44:18 GMT -8
A quick update on the cull - will not be starting this weekend as ammunition suppliers have refused to sell the Government department the required ammunition.
Link to vifdeo from question time in our parliament
This is going to get real interesting before it is over. If you havent already, please email our minister with your abhorance at this action - she has received over 20K communications in 2 days - awesome
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Post by odin on Sept 27, 2018 16:13:34 GMT -8
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Post by mexicanjoe on Sept 27, 2018 19:08:37 GMT -8
What kind of animal is that
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Post by odin on Sept 27, 2018 21:14:43 GMT -8
Himilayan Thar NZ has the only stock of them outside their natural range - they are the highest living Goat/Sheep type animal in the world. The bull has a big mane like a lion that he can make stand out when presenting to the females. Nz was gifted its herd in 1904 and we really have a responsibility to preserve a strong herd with good biodiversity as the UN lists them as endangered declining in their natural range Only place in the world you can hunt them outside their natural range, Fairly large and impressive animal
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Post by odin on Oct 1, 2018 15:58:14 GMT -8
From the NZ Thar Foundation on Yesterdays meeting with the Government.
Hunting lobby wins concessions over tahr cull.
This was the Radio NZ headline this morning. The minister seems to have announced the outcome of yesterday’s meeting, stating there will only be 6,000 tahr culled this year, plus up to another 4000 next year if needed. Basically DoC and the minster appear to have accepted the Game Animal Council’s well thought out and whole of hunting sector consulted tahr management plan. It was a very constructive meeting yesterday and common sense appears to have prevailed. Doc in particular were very constructive and appeared to only want a workable and sensible outcome.
We posted up the link to the GAC plan a couple of days ago, but here are the most important points, as agreed upon by all of the hunting sector:
Initial cull before mid-November kid drop of 6000 targeting the hard to get at and highest density areas and leaving the most accessible areas for recreational hunters.
Any remainder to make up the initial 6000 to be taken in April 2019 so as to not early-wean any kids and stunt their growth in that most important first year.
No bulls to be shot anywhere in aerial culls.
WARO to be used where possible to utilise the carcasses.
Maximise the effectiveness of ground hunters by allowing more access and targeting them to where they can be the most effective.
The commercial and recreational hunting sector to take trophy bulls as they do now, and tahr meat recovery of nannies only, and also establish an ethos of taking far more nannies by recreational hunters. This combined approach will for account for another 4000 tahr over the forth coming season.
Re-evaluate after a year and re-target as necessary – using adaptive management principles.
Even though its early days yet and we’ll wait until we’ve seen the proposal in writing, this result shows what we can achieve when the whole hunting sector is totally united under the GAC. While we have the application for the court injunction waiting with our lawyers at the moment in case its needed, hopefully the majority of the donations can now go towards constructively moving forward - gathering robust data and working towards establishing the tahr as herd of special interest under the GAC!
It would appear that the public response has caught the minister out - Thank you very much to all those from here that emailed the Minister - she received over 20K communications in just 2 days.
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Post by odin on Oct 9, 2018 23:20:09 GMT -8
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Post by silvergoose on Oct 14, 2018 13:34:52 GMT -8
Odin an e-mail has been sent in support of the Thar. Thank you for the information. May good Luck be with you.
Stay in touch.
Larry
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Post by odin on Oct 21, 2018 12:50:33 GMT -8
Thanks for that Larry A quick update on the developing situation. Last Friday the minister of conservation, despite agreeing to wait till the end of summer to start any culling and to first take into consideration the numbers killed by hunters, tried for a sneaky start to the cull to rub our noses in it. She had a bunch of leftist media all jacked up to favorably report it for her. Sadly one of the helicopters that were been used went down and caught on fire resulting in the death of the 2 cullers and the pilot. She was then highly exposed as a liar with egg on her face. A sad event, however will be good for our cause as it resulted in a suspension of her efforts while she went into control mode. I just hope it is a true accident and not some yokel trying for a bit of fame as that would not bode well for our cause if so. All I can really add to this is that this toxic excuse for a conservation minister that we have is not to be trusted. Cheers odin
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Post by odin on Oct 21, 2018 12:53:28 GMT -8
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Post by odin on Oct 21, 2018 16:57:26 GMT -8
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Post by silvergoose on Nov 4, 2018 13:47:49 GMT -8
Keep the pressure on, the only way to compete with the out of control "Leaders" is to flood them with the people's comments, both written and via media.
If I can add fuel to the fire let me know.
Larry
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Post by odin on Feb 21, 2019 21:24:08 GMT -8
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Post by odin on Mar 6, 2019 21:12:54 GMT -8
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Post by odin on Mar 6, 2019 21:40:54 GMT -8
If any feel inclined to email their thoughts to the powers that be here are some contact emails
NZ Prime Minister - J Adern j.ardern@ministers.govt.nz
NZ Minister of Conservation - E Sage e.sage@ministers.govt.nz
Opposition Party Leader - S Bridges simon.bridges@parliament.govt.nz
Opposition Conservation Minister - S Dowie sarah.dowie@parliament.govt.nz
Suggest from experience that copying the opposition ministers in on an email gets attention as the opposition then also has a record of the transaction - Things tend to get ignored otherwise. Cheers odin
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Post by odin on Jul 27, 2020 20:12:20 GMT -8
Quick update The NZ Department of Conservation is currently engaged in an eradication program of the Tahr, despite them been listed as endangered and despite a High Court ruling telling them to stop untilthey have consulted with hunting groups. Guess they should really be called the department of eradication
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